[lojban] Re: Trying to follow XXS

[Rob Speer <lojban-out@lojban.org>]

On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 11:47:06PM +0100, And Rosta wrote:
> 'Fuzzy collectives' are handled by lV. That leaves lVi semantically vacant.
> At the same time, there is no easy way to say "The things that are each
> broda are jointly but not separately brode", so one suggestion is to use
> lVi for this purpose. (Personally, though, I think it would be nicer to
> generalize the notion of 'set' ever so slightly, so that lV'i would cover
> this.)

Okay, I understand. But masses and mathematical sets should not be
combined. Mathematical sets don't walk or talk or carry pianos; they
have members and that's about it. Nevertheless, they are useful in some
Lojban constructs, and when used correctly they make things
_exceedingly_ clear.

> IIRC, the change is from {me mi moi} to {mo'e mi moi} or {vei mo'e mi moi}
> or something like that. If {mi moi} were allowed, that'd be great, though.

Argh. {vei mo'e mi moi} is a total loss.

So yeah, this part sounds messy. I suggest keeping it separate from XXS.
The less stuff that is tacked on, the more likely it is that people will
at least consider supporting XXS.

-- 
mu'o mi'e rab.spir