--- In lojban@yahoogroups.com, Llu'is Batlle i Rossell <lojban-> Mmmm > I think I difference them perfectly. In the first line, the "le" sounds to me like "lei". Seems to me in a language where pronounciation is supposed to exactly match spelling, there seems to be quite a bit of ambiguity. This is mostly due to the choice of the 6 basic vowels and their chosen pronounciations.