On not using du for is

["hfroark" <hfroark@bigmailbox.net>]

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the example "ti du le mi patfu" is given as malglico for 
"ti patfu mi". The main reason is that one is not taking advantage 
of 
the place structures of the brivla. 

I'm going to replace "patfu" with "mamta"; this doesn't change the 
grammar, but I had an easier time coming up mith a realistic example 
for "patfu". 

So, if I were speaking of my mother as it is usually understood in 
English, I would say "ti mamta mi". "ti du le mi mamta" isn't wrong, 
but means the same as "ti du le mi pe mamta" and "ti du le mamta pe 
mi". That isn't incorrect; the woman described by "le mamta be mi 
be'o" is associated with me in some way (by being my mother), but it 
is unclear. But suppose I actually want the looser association 
meant by "pe". The example that I have thought of for this is a 
Lamaze class. The woman that I am describing by using "le mamta pe 
mi" is unlikely to be "le mamta be mi be'o". It's possible (if only 
in theory in the case of me and my mother), but it certainly isn't 
implied. 

Now my question is how would I best express "ti du le mamta pe mi" 
without the "du"?

mi'e. rork.
mu'o mi'e. rok.