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[lojban] Re: y: what is it good for?
--- Nora LeChevalier <noras@cox.net> wrote:
> But that "single" word invalidates all the documentation on cmavo word
> forms. Cmavo currently can only be either a series of vowels or a single
> consonant followed by a series of vowels (where "series of vowels" is a
> little up in the air as to what's acceptable).
CLL says:
> Standard cmavo occur in four forms defined by their word structure.
> Here are some examples of the various forms:
>
> V-form .a .e .i .o .u
> CV-form ba ce di fo gu
> VV-form .au .ei .ia .o'u .u'e
> CVV-form ki'a pei mi'o coi cu'u
>
> In addition, there is the cmavo ``.y.'' (remember that ``y'' is
> not a V), which must have pauses before and after it.
So, ".y." already is an exception. (The other exception, ".y'y.",
seems to have been forgotten here.)
In any case, while I admit "ybu" would be a wart type-of word, the
alternative seems worse to me: "You can hesitate between any pair
of words except after "zo", before "bu", before or after "zei" or
between "lo'u-le'u"". Hesitation is not something so easily
controllable. This would make zo-, bu- and zei-phrases especially
tight, such that they can't be broken by hesitation. Almost word-like.
(lo'u-le'u is included in the list above because when quoting words,
if {y} is counted as a word it makes a difference. For example
{lo'u a bu y zo y zoi le'u cu valsi xamei} is not equivalent
to {lo'u a bu zo zoi le'u cu valsi xamei}. {y} would make little or
no difference inside a zoi quote because it is unanalyzable, and
inside lu-li'u it would be as irrelevant as <word> si. But inside
lo'u-le'u it would count, also like si.)
mu'o mi'e xorxes
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