Adam D. Lopresto wrote: >Yes, either of those would be perfectly fine. Personally, I'd use {.i xu do se >bangu la lojban}, feels more direct. If going in that direction, consider the more concise {xu do jbopli}. I'd favour {xu do cusku bau la lojban} or {xu do tavla fo la lojban}, depending on context. -zefram