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Re: [lojban]



xah lee wrote:

(i don't think lojban is ever suitable for human communication as
with natural languages.
Do you have any basis for that opinion?
essentially that humans are not logical machines.... in any natural
situation communication far outruns any logical concern... employing
body language, context, situational... and perhaps the actual literal
content in speech plays only some 10% of all thins communicated. In
emergency, love affairs, power play, ... any situation... all these
things are happening implicitly, even among you the reader and me right
at this moment. The only exception is say idol chat among linguists
inside sealed ivy towers (as the case of online lojban chat or in this
forum.).

so in natural settings, lojban will be broken as soon as it is used for
real... just as people constant break English.

So your argument is that  you don't think that "lojban is ever suitable
for human communication as with natural languages" because people will
break the rules just as they do for English. By that reasoning however,
Russian, French and Chinese will never "be suitable for human
communication", because people will break the rules just as they do for
English. Either that, or you have to prove that Lojban is LESS suitable
than the other languages for human communication when people DO break
the rules, which might be true but would be hard to prove until we have
fluent speakers facing the sorts of situation where unsuitability would
occur.

Lojban would not be a failure as a language merely because people do not
always speak it flawlessly.  I'm bothered when I see people setting a
higher standard for Lojbanic success than they do for success of English.

lojbab