[lojban] Re: Lojban Masters Thesis Project

[John E Clifford <lojban-out@lojban.org>]

That is it indeed (I see I misspelled it, aUI it
should be).  It seems to have come a long way in
support since the days when little was known
about it outside of Iowa (I wrote a Loglan paper
about it while I was hibernating in Iowa City
about 1980 -- never published).  It is an a
priori language in the fine old tradition of Sir
Thomas Urqhart and Rabelais inter alia, though
more pronounceable than theirs.  Most Lojban
gismu translate (if at all -- I never worked some
out and that was for Loglan) to about seven
syllables as I recall.

--- Jocelyn Paine <popx@j-paine.org> wrote:

> 
> I've come across some meaning representations
> built around semantic
> primes, but not AUI. What is it? Would it be
> the a-priori language
> described at http://home.pacifier.com/~patten/
> ?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jocelyn Paine
> http://www.j-paine.org
> +44 (0)7768 534 091
> 
> On Sat, 12 Mar 2005, John E Clifford wrote:
> 
> > This sounds like an interesting project and I
> am
> > glad you think that Lojban may help.  But you
> > should note early on that Lojban gismu are
> not
> > meant to be semantic primes but rather higher
> > nodes in a web that will be more useful for
> > forming compounds (primes make for very long
> > compounds -- check out AUI). Notice, by way
> of
> > making the point, the current discussion
> about
> > {pilka} and {skapi}, which probably share
> some
> > primes and yet are clearly different and are
> both
> > gismu.  Taking gismu as fixed points, your
> web
> > will have to go down as well as up to fit
> other
> > concepts in, if that is the overall scheme
> you
> > are following (I don't keep up, so my ideas
> are
> > very 1970's -- roughly old stone age, I
> suspect).
> >
> > --- Brandon Wirick <bwirick@calpoly.edu>
> wrote:
> > > coi rodo
> > >
> > > My name is Brandon Wirick, and I discovered
> > > Lojban a few weeks ago. I
> > > had been wanting to find or create a
> logical
> > > language for about ten
> > > years, so I natually think Lojban is just
> about
> > > the best thing ever. I
> > > intend to become fluent.
> > >
> > > I am finishing up my masters at California
> > > Polytechnic State University,
> > > and since I have found Lojban, I decided
> that I
> > > would like to
> > > incorporate it into the work I am doing for
> my
> > > thesis. I am working with
> > > the XML-based ontology description language
> > > OWL, which is primarily used
> > > to describe concepts and their
> relationships on
> > > the web. As far as I can
> > > tell, no one has yet created an ontology
> for
> > > Lojban terms, so I would
> > > like to create one and promote it as a
> standard
> > > for concept
> > > representation on the web. Gismu and lujvo
> > > would provide a rich base for
> > > the ontology, but users everywhere could
> extend
> > > it with words from any
> > > language. This could not only help the
> > > Lojbangirz gain some recognition,
> > > but the Semantic Web effort as well.
> > >
> > > I'm looking for people who would be able to
> > > help me get this project off
> > > the ground. I'm good with XML and OWL, but
> not
> > > familiar with the
> > > intricacies of Lojban. I have a working
> > > prototype ontology that I can
> > > demonstrate to anyone who is interested.
> > >
> > > ki'e
> > >
> > > Brandon Wirick
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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