[lojban] Re: "zo'e" = ("unimportant","obvious" and ?"unknown")

[Jorge Llambías <lojban-out@lojban.org>]

> I am new in this group. My name is Opi Lauma. 

coi fi'i opilaumas i do xabju ma i ma jbena bangu do

> Pleas help me to find
> answer on my first question. I found that zo'e is unspecified value
> (used when a sumti is unimportant or obvious). However "unimportant"
> and "obvious" are different category. Is there a possibility to
> emphasize whether sumti is "unimportant" or "obvious"? 

Do you have some example in mind? In some cases, for
"unimportant" I might use {ma kau}, "whatever". For "obvious"
in some cases one can use {zu'i}, the typical value for the
situation.

> What I need to
> do if sumti is "unknown", i.e. it is important and not obvious, but
> "unknown". 

If you need to know what it is, then perhaps {ma}. 

{zo'e} is "unimportant" in the sense that you don't need to know 
what it is in order to understand the sentence, not in the sense 
that it lacks any importance whatsoever in any other sense. For
example, if I say {mi klama le zarci}, "I go to the store", the place
I'm going from may be very important to me for many reasons, but
all I'm mentioning is the goer and the destination, and that already
gives a meaningful picture of the situation.

> Can I use "zo'e" in this case? If not, what I need to use?

Perhaps a concrete example would help.

mu'o mi'e xorxes