[lojban] Re: Penguicon Lojban Presentation

[John E Clifford <lojban-out@lojban.org>]

I rest my case.  As the official line goes, we
cannot tell what each component modifies unless
we are told -- but we can sometimes guess.  In
this case "small" modifies "cold" not whatever it
is that "cold" modifies, so my comment about
{cma} was apt after all, since you guessed wrong
(as a relatively good literalist should have). 
Come to that, "small cold thing" or at least
{cmalu lenku} is ambiguous in just the
corresponding ways.
I have mentioned, I hope, that -- while I cannot
do them -- I favor interesting, metaphorical,
compounds over boring literal ones.  Part of the
joke was how pitiful this effort was since -- I
thought -- likely to be totally transparent.  I
see I underestimated the hold of analytic
compounding (not that thse are actually any more
reality based than metaphorical ones and
occasionally less so). 
--- Robin Lee Powell
<rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> "cmalenku" doesn't mean "cool" it means
> something like "small cold
> thing".  "cool" would normally be "mlilenku".
> 
> -Robin
> 
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 09:12:42AM -0400, Matt
> Arnold wrote:
> > I understand the humor, but I also understand
> how Robin would be
> > confused wondering what was cold about my
> presentation. {cma} had
> > nothing to do with your joke. Or are you
> still joking?
> >
> > -Matt
> > 
> > clifford-j@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> > >--- Robin Lee Powell
> > ><rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> > >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 01:08:51PM -0700,
> John
> > >> E Clifford wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > --- Jorge Llamb?as
> <jjllambias@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > On 4/28/05, Robin Lee Powell
> > >> <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 06:59:11AM
> -0700,
> > >> > > John E Clifford wrote:
> > >> > > > > cmalenku
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > ki'a sai .o'o cu'i
> > >> > >
> > >> > > pe'i smudji zo zabna i cumki ji'a fa
> lo nu
> > >> lo tu vensa za'o na
> > >> > > banzu glari'a
> > >> > >
> > >> > Well, yes, it was meant to be favorable
> and,
> > >> yes, Spring here has
> > >> > goone from 8os back to 40s (Fahrenheit,
> > >> obviously).  But all I did
> > >> > was observe -- like Robin -- that the
> events
> > >> described were cool
> > >> > (calque and thus not really approved,
> but it
> > >> was a short joke).
> > >>
> > >> Wow.  I'm so used to the literalism of
> Lojban
> > >> that, as usual, the
> > >> joke never occured to me.
> > >>
> > >Gee, I can't even claim this as a fancy
> > >metaphorical lujvo; {cma} has been used
> > >consistently as a diminutive and/or
> lessening
> > >prefix since the get-go.
> > >
> > 
> >
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