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[lojban] Re: Orthography
--- Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have attempted to make a chart in which I
> count in binary using LCD clock
> characters.
>
http://www.nemorathwald.com/lojban/LCD_binary_chart.jpg
> Black represents on, blue represents off. There
> are a hundred and twenty
> eight, if you include zero, so that matches
> John's count. I'm fairly sure
> every possible way for it to light up is
> represented in this chart. Each of
> the seven strokes is to represent a digit in a
> binary number, and John
> described the scheme as follows:
> top, upper right, upper left, middle, lower
> right, lower left, bottom
> I would have numbered them but I don't know how
> to count in binary so I
> don't know if I've got them in the wrong order.
> Can somebody type out a
> comma-separated or space-separated list
> numbering them according to what
> each represents? For instance, unless I am
> mistaken, I think the first row
> is:
> 0
> and the second row is:
> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
> ...I think. The last row is:
> 128
> Then I'll remake the chart, numbered, and put
> it online. Then when we
> discuss changes to DSO we could just refer to a
> character by number and look
> it up to know what somebody's talking about.
> -epkat
>
> On 9/5/05, Brandon Wirick <brandon@yrick.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > It certainly doesn't suck! Good idea on the
> vowels. Too bad it's
> > impossible to do that with only connected
> characters.
> >
> > Maybe I can create an applet or something
> that generates orthographies
> > from a hex string. That way we can all play
> around with orthographies
> > and communicate along these lines:
> > "Check out this orthography: 4FA39F6..."
> > "Ooh, I like what you did with {ty} and {dy},
> but I think it would be
> > better if you did this: 4FA3C96..."
> >
> > I'll get on that soon, or if anyone else is
> itching to do it, be my guest.
> >
> > mu'omi'e.uirik.
> >
> > On 9/5/05, Matt Arnold
> <matt.mattarn@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > No doubt this image has other problems, but
> I tried to visualize a DSO
> > in
> > > which vowels were horizontally symmetrical.
> Also, in this version I
> > > eliminated the characters made of two
> unattached vertical lines because
> > > those were a pain to write with. The red
> characters represent the
> > original
> > > characters which were replaced. Here's the
> link:
> > >
>
http://www.nemorathwald.com/lojban/lcd_clock_alphabet.gif
> > > Currently I'm drawing a chart of all
> possible arrangements of segments
> > that
> > > can be in one character. I believe, but am
> not sure, that they are in
> > binary
> > > code order. After I upload it, I'd like
> somebody who understands binary
> > to
> > > number them in The Gimp or some such image
> program so we can use John's
> > > numbering scheme and reference the chart.
In my system (we really need to get these three
together), the lines are
0
64 16 32 8 2 4 1
80 96 72 66 68 65
48 24 18 20 17
40 34 36 33
10 12 9
6 3
5
112 88 82 84 81
104 98 100 97
74 76 73
70 67
69
56 50 64 49
26 28 25
22 19
21
120 114 116 113
90 92 89
86 83
85
42
41 44
37 35 38
7 13 11 14
106
105 108
101 99 102
71 77 75 78
58
57 60
53 51 54
23 29 27 30
15 39 45 43 46
122
121 124
117 115 118
87 93 91 94
19 103 109 107 110
47 31 55 61 59 62
63 111 91 119 125 123 126
127
So far, suggestions are (Arnold, Brandon1,
Brandon2 (incomplete), Clifford (many arbitrary))
a 62 45 - 59
A 124 109 - 123
b 31 31 47 31
c 43 43 - 43
d 26 26 39 26
e 15 27 - 61
E 79 97 - 125
f 39 42 - 42
g 27 22 - 83
i 7 39 - 39
I 71 103 - 103
j 29 29 - 29
k 45 38 - 101
l 19 19 19 19
m 64 33 63 27
n 30 17 55 45
o 63 46 - 46
O 127 110 - 110
p 47 47 31 47
r 37 37 37 37
s 42 41 - 108
t 44 44 23 44
u 55 23 - 23
U 119 87 - 87
v 23 28 - 28
x 41 34 62 62
y 57 30 - 30
Y 121 94 - 94
z 28 25 - 40
â?? 25 20 â?? 16 (32)
, 21 21 - 2 (4)
. 35 35 â?? 5 (or 3)
1 - - - 36 (18)
2 - - - 107
3 - - - 109
4 - - - 60
5 - - - 93
6 - - - 95
7 - - - 100
8 - - - 127
9 - - - 125
0 - - - 119
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