[lojban] Re: {lo} down/was: RE:xorlo ipodcast

[John E Clifford <lojban-out@lojban.org>]

--- Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 9/30/05, Robin Lee Powell
> <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> > If you people really must do this crap in
> public, could you at least
> > change the subject line?
> >
> > Thanks.

As the man in charge in some sense of BPFK, it is
probably not useful for you to be calling a
discussion of one of the few items which have
actually been worked out "crap." I don't think
I've called even xorlo that. 

> It's not all crap though. I think the links to
> JCB's articles I posted
> are of general interest for Lojbanists, at
> least from a historical
> perspective, but also they address many issues
> that come up
> all the time in the list.

I hope not by giving suggestions about how to
deal with them.  There are languages -- and we
could construct another -- in which Mr. Mr. was a
natural way to do things, but Lojban isn't one of
them (it also, for the same reason, is a lousy
test for Sapir-Whorf on SAE speakers).  Absorbing
it into Lojban can probably be done, but the
question is, Why bother?  What does all this
added complexity buy us? So far no real answers. 

> Anyway, I'll take it to private mail unless
> someone says they are
> really interested to know how the discussion
> continues. I expect
> oldtimers already know it with 98% certainty,
> but the list is getting
> new members all the time who may have never
> seen it before.
> Can you claim to be a true Lojbanist if you've
> never read one
> of this kind of exchanges before. :)

Probably the real test of veteran status is more
having erased it unread.  I get the impression
that interest in getting Lojban right has
declined somewhat severely, hopefully in favor of
learning it well enough to use it in a variety of
public ways.


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