[lojban] Re: Usage of lo and le

["Matt Arnold" <lojban-out@lojban.org>]

On 5/5/06, Ed Blake <kitsune_e@yahoo.com> wrote:
> .u'i As a novice I would like to get into this conversation and muddy the
> waters a bit!
>
> In my understanding the difference between lo cribe and le cribe is that when
> I say "lo cribe cu citka lo jbari" I mean Actual bears eat Actual berries -
> while when I say "le cribe cu citka le jbari" I mean "there is some thing I'm
> calling a bear (which may or may not be vaguely resemble a bear) is eating
> something I'm calling 'berries' (regardless of whether they are really apples
> or papaya or people)".
>
> lo == the thing which (apparently) really is X
> le == the thing I'm calling X (which is not required to be a real X)
>
> So the usefulness of le is that you can describe things by their
> characteristics/behavior or any word you want to apply to them.
> While with lo you mean what you (exactly) say - no metaphor, no simile, no
> puns, etc.
>
> So is that it, or am I totaly decieved?

Ed,

That's technically the meaning of {lo} and {le} according to CLL. Very
few people like it, and nobody uses it that way any more. It is the
only major change made to the language since the publication of CLL.
See this for more info:

http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=How%20to%20use%20xorlo

-epkat


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