[lojban] Re: Regarding the lojban film idea.

[Paul Vigo <lojban-out@lojban.org>]

M@ wrote:

> Do you think it would be a helpful thing for everyone if I put together a
> "how to make better sounding recordings on a budget" lesson?  It's often
> amazing what can be done with $10 and a trip to radio shack.
>  
/I think this is an excellent idea. However - I'm sure there must be 
some resources on the net we can point to without re-inventing the wheel 
here. Some basic guidelines and pointers to good articles elsewhere 
rather than bogging up the lojban.org site with too much (slightly off 
topic) material. I think it would produce too much content to have a 
comprehensive recording guide hosted on site - there is just too much to 
know. /

> I'm not half bad with the Adobe lineup (Audition, Encore DVD, Premiere).
> The real trick we're going to run into is dialogue during sound effects,
> besides getting a dialogue free base track and doing it right, do you know
> of any good methods for preserving the sound effects, or are we going to end
> up recreating them?
>
> --M@
>
>  
/Foley (sound effects) is a small issue - remember that the reason we 
may be able to sell this idea to film-makers is to see their work used 
for educational purposes. For that, production values such as foley are 
of minimal significance to the final outcome. Foley should be seen as 
icing, the cake is getting free films to dub. We could develop propper 
foley after dubbing is done, when room noise, ambiance, context sound 
beds and other pieces are in place, and the dubbed voices can have 
contextual reverb and filtering applied to match the environments. This 
is a lot of work for a small community to do however, so lets stay 
focused on getting films and basic dubbing done rather than looking too 
far ahead into post-produciton issues.

I must state that at this time all I have gotten is a tentative ok from 
one film maker. Please don't get too excited about doing this tomorrow - 
there's a few steps and garantees i need to be able to give before 
anyone is likely to hand over their film to me for this. I'll be looking 
into using some variation of the creative commons licence to ensure 
film-makers retain some control over their material after it leaves 
their hands, and other such issues.

I'm looking at getting something for us to play with in the short term, 
but by short I mean "kinda soon". In the longer term I'm looking at 
ensuring the licensing and other such issues are bullet proof enough 
that we can offer an adequate intellectual property rights package to 
film makers.  Then they will feel comfortable opening their films up to 
smaller language communities (not just lojban, everything from esperanto 
to ainu). This will allow small speech communities, without the 
resources to produce their own films, a library of licensed works that 
they can freely dub into their own language.

Many film makers would like to see their works "out there" without 
losing control over their distribution, and folks such as the lojban 
community would love access to these works as well, but it is utopian to 
believe we could get access to these works in any number without being 
reasonably professional about the limits of usage which will be allowed 
under the agreement to re-use these works.

I'm getting back to research on licensing issues. By the way, does 
anyone have much of an idea of how the BBC licenses for their CC 
released works operate (is dubbing an option?) I'll keep you informed as 
to how I go.

co'o

Paul Vigo
/


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