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[lojban] Re: Once again about le and lo



On 6/28/06, Dmitry <ratson@mail.ru> wrote:
Please help me to check myself.

Assume following two utterances:
1) .i lo ratcu cu citka le cirla
2) .i le ratcu cu citka le cirla .ije ra ratcu

Are (1) and (2) equivalent?

In (2) the speaker has some particular rat or rats in mind,
in (1) there is no such indication.

Actually, before writing the message I thought that they are. But now, I
think it is not so, because of implicit quantifiers.

Now consider following utterance
3) .i su'o lo ratcu cu citka le cirla

Is it equivalent to (2)? I believe, it should.

(3) has no indication that the speaker has any particular
rat in mind. Besides, if there were several rats that shared the
cheese, (3) would be false, because it is not the case for any
of the rats that it ate it by itself, but (1) and (2) would be fine.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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