If we take a look at the gismu reference list of {tcika}, we'll find {dirba} there. Can anyone explain me what {tcika} has to do with {dirba}? mi'e .ianis To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.