[lojban] Re: "la" in names

[Robert McIvor <lojban-out@lojban.org>]

On 8 Nov, 2006, at 18:21, Robin Lee Powell wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 07:08:56AM -0500,  
> MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote:
> > Join the club.  I'd like to be able to say my name in Lojban
> > ("laitl"), but it's not legal after "la".
>
> In current Lojban it's not legal *at all*, after la or otherwise.
>
> *However*, that didn't stop it from getting into a *published Lojban
> book*, despite it being written by the most fluent speaker at the
> time, and being proofread by most of the best Lojbanists at the
> time:
>
> http://lojban.org/publications/level0/brochure-utf/pref.html
>
> Search for "laitl".
>
> .i ji'a pe'i le me zo la javni cu nitcu co se daspo
>
> -Robin
	I might note that Loglan removed the restriction on names beginning  
with La, or any other letter group that could precede a bare name  
(e.g. Hoi (which precedes a vocative) ci (hyphen, for reasons which  
follow)) by introducing the following rules.
	Such a name used as as a vocative must be preceded by 'hoi' , or  
'la' when used in an argument.
	Consecutive names e.g. Peter Lalonde (or Lalande) must be written as  
pitr ci laland.  When a listener hears multiple combinations of la,  
ci, or hoi,  da knows that the first member is a name indicator, and  
the remainder up to the terminating consonant and subsequent pause is  
a name.
	This is from memory, but I think it covers the situation.
	Forbidding 'la' in names is awkward for people of French background,  
whose names very frequently begin with La or Le

Bob McIvor


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