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[lojban] Re: "la" rule
Audio=visual isomorphism, isn't the problem here, but the word-isolating algorithm{
{lastIvn.lAItl}is a written, visual form, corresponding exactly (let is suppose speech competence)
the spoken (audio) utterance. The question now is, how to divide this into words and to classify
them correctly. That is also supposed to be a part of Lojban and apparently fails without either
the {la} etc prohibition or the preceding pause. I note in passing that obligatory pauses are as
likely to be skipped as {la} is to be included in names. That is, neither of these solutions
looks very practical.
--- Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 08:29:32PM -0500, Bob LeChevalier wrote:
> > The la rule isn't required with standard (spaces included)
> > orthography, and without a speaking community. When we have a
> > skilled speaking community, we can find out whether la in names in
> > the spoken language causes problems for humans - after all, humans
> > can parse English and other human languages successfully, and they
> > aren't audiovisually isomorphic.
>
> So it's OK to leave a rule that people will often violate because
> people can deal with that sort of thing?
>
> That's just... It's like you *want* to kill Lojban.
>
> I want a language that will *actually* have audio-visual
> isomorphism. In practice. With real people.
>
> You, if the above is to be believed, don't actually care about that.
>
> -Robin
>
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