[lojban] Re: "la" rule

["Chris Capel" <lojban-out@lojban.org>]

On 11/14/06, And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bob LeChevalier, On 14/11/2006 21:31:
> > Those who like the pause-all-the-time solution can implement the
> > practice of pausing all the time to show that in fact people can and
> > will learn to do so, which could at least partially negate this
> > argument; that is a legal dialect.
>
> "Pause-all-the-time" is a very misleading description. The solution is rather to replace the words {la}, {lai} and {doi} by {la.}, {lai.} and {doi.}, i.e. [la?], [lai?], [doi?].
>
> The idea that the phoneme /./ is realized by a pause at all, let alone as its primary allophone, is lunacy in a human language. A much more sensible analysis of the situation in Lojban is that the phoneme /./ (realized as [?]) can be unrealized when at the edge of a phonological string.

Your "realized as a" symbol, which I assume is some IPA, shows up as a
"?" for me. Is it a glottal stop?

I have a bit of difficulty pronouncing a glottal stop in the middle of
a speech stream, and getting it to sound different from without, or
from being apparent enough. For instance, the two

la.clsn
laclsn

sound pretty much the same the way I say them.

Chris Capel
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