[lojban] Re: Mass Lojban Conversion

[John E Clifford <lojban-out@lojban.org>]

Not that it will make a difference to me, but I hope you are right about your predictions.
As for the virtues of Lojban, so far as I can find, there is no evidence that speaking Lojban even
fluently improves your thinking: gets you to be more precise or less ambiguous, gets you to be
more "logical" (create and follow arguments better, avoid fallacies, etc.)  Anyone who is
optimistic about these features should read a few Logic journals.

--- "Andrii (lOkadin) Zvorygin" <andrii.z@gmail.com> wrote:

> If you think with an ambiguous language, you vaguely know what you are
> thinking about. If you are thinking in Lojban you know precisly what you are
> thinking about. This is one of the advantages of Lojban over RARbau.
> 
> 
> The other advantage, is that currenntly a Lojban programming language is in
> development. Once it is fully implemented, expressing yourself in Lojban, or
> lojSAMban if the Lojban community isn't willing to accept whatever
> modifications will be necessary to fully disambiguate the language --
> doesn't seem like we'll need to do anything funky atm, already made a parser
> and working on the .jbo to .pl conversion right now.
> 
> la.ma'aSELtcan. is a religion based on math. Mainly on predicate logic. The
> goal is for we with you to live as long as we with you want. We with you
> want you to have god like powers -- from the perspective of a homo sapien
> sapien.  We with you can achieve our goals together.
> 
> If you live to 2025 medical technology will have reached a point that we can
> stop and reverse your aging, in the late 2010's we should have nano-bot
> blood on the market that would allow you to hold your breath for half an
> hour under water as well as take care of nutrition and anything else you
> program them to do.
> 
> So the followers of this religion start off by understanding the main
> concepts, which are being laid out on http://lokadin.blogspot.com official
> irc channel is irc://irc.oftc.net/#ma'a
> 
> On 1/2/07, Seth Gordon <sethg@ropine.com> wrote:
> >
> > Andrii (lOkadin) Zvorygin wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if you are aware, but all of you have an advantage over
> > > natural language speakers. Ambiguous languages can define vaguely what
> > > you are thinking about. Logical languages define precisly what you are
> > > thinking about. That means that the majority of the time, natural
> > > language speakers are forced to be confused about what they mean.
> >
> > I agree with what M@ and John Clifford have said above.
> >
> > If the guy sitting in the cubicle next to me exclaims "Windows crashed
> > on me again!", I am not for one millisecond going to think that he was
> > struck by falling panes of glass.
> >
> >
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> >
> 
> 
> -- 
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> more on Lojban: http://lojban.org
> mu'oimi'e lOkadin (Over, my name is lOkadin)
> 



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