[lojban] Re: nutcracker and nutpick

["Adam D. Lopresto" <lojban-out@lojban.org>]

On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Cortesi wrote:

> 
> On Apr 10, 2007, at 2:21 AM, Pierra Abbat wrote:
> 
> >a nutpick is clearly a cfinyvra (crowbar, but more generally any lever with a
> >wedge at the end).
> 
> Um, isn't {cfinyvra} at least a bit aurally ambiguous because of
> 	cfila/cfi x1 is a flaw/fault/defect in x2 causing x3

{cfinyvra} is perfectly fine.  I don't really see the problem you think you
see, but there's no way {cfinyvra} could be misinterpreted unless it's
mispronounced (and anything could be mispronounced badly enough to sound like
something else).

> Anyway consider {kapkavra} (or {vralkapka}?), a digging lever.

*{kapkavra} is wrong in several ways.  It breaks up as rafsi {kap} (from
{skapi}) and {kavra} (which doesn't exist).  {kakpa} (not *{kakpa}) doesn't
have any (nontrivial) rafsi, so you want {kakpyvra}.

*{vralkapka} isn't legal either.  You don't need a hyphen, just use {vrakakpa}.

> vernagvralkapka, "x1 is a nut-meat-lever-digger-outer"? Truly {to'e melbi}
> 
> >Or a nutcracker could be a cinzyvra. What do you think?
> 
> As cinze is already a tool, {cinzyvra} would be somewhat redundant.
> Did you perhaps intend {nagcinze}, nut type of pliers?

{nagycinza} seems appropriate.  ({cinza}, not {cinze}, and gc is a
voiced-unvoiced pair).
-- 
Adam Lopresto
http://cec.wustl.edu/~adam/

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