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forward of vVeijo's attitudinal proposal mentioned in my response
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Date: 22 Jun 93 08:21:26 EET DST
Subject: Indicator contour modifiers
Priority: normal
During the week-end I gave some thought to the expression of
attitudes. Even though we can exclude very complex emotions
requiring logical analysis (they can be appropriately dealt
with using relative clauses) I think we ought to add a group
of modifiers to the system, i.e. indicator contour modifiers.
Even very spontaneous feelings can have a contour element.
A feeling may be momentary, situational or switch from one
extreme to the other.
A set of five contours might be enough. In the following
I chose to use separate cmavo for each contour to gain
the additional benefit of being able to differentiate
between causal and incidental feelings.
xu'a the modified indicator has global scope (default?)
xu'e the m. i. is restricted to the context
NB. actually we ought to weigh very carefully
which one of the above two is better as
the default. Explicit expression of the
default can be used to add emphasis.
xu'i the m. i. ceases to be true due to the fact described
xu'o the m. i. becomes true due to the fact (and will be)
xu'u the m. i. expresses a fleeting feeling
examples: (only the attitudinals are translated)
ko'a .iuxu'a broda
I love ko'a (in general)
[not related to le nu ko'a broda, no time contour]
ko'a .iuxu'e broda
I love ko'a while ko'a broda
[not necessarily valid outside context, causal, delimited time
span]
ko'a .iuxu'i broda
I have loved ko'a but will no more because of le nu ko'a broda
[global scope, causally falling contour, cessitive]
ko'a .iuxu'o broda
I haven't loved ko'a but started to because of le nu ko'a
broda
[global scope, causally rising contour, initiative]
ko'a .iuxu'u broda
I had a fleeting feeling of love towards ko'a because of
le nu ko'a broda
[causal momentary peak]
Combined modifiers:
ko'a .iucaixu'i ...
My intense love waned ...
ko'a .iuxu'icai ...
My love was crushed ...
ko'a .iuxu'unai ...
My love isn't just something temporary ...
[not quite the same as .iuxu'a, retains traces of causality]
I think these contours, at least, are quite common and need to be
expressed - as attitudes do have their own dynamics. The present
system, though already quite powerful, has basically a very static
view of human emotions. We ought to rectify that, pe'i.
Dynamic emotions can, of course, be expressed in many ways. A set
of modifiers will, however, fit seamlessly into the present
framework. It will also keep the thread of emotions separate from
the logical structure of the rest of the bridi involved and
achieve an immediacy not attainable with lengthy explaining
relative clauses, parenthetical remarks or interleaved commenting
sentences.
The field of human emotions is a complex one and we may find it
necessary to contemplate even other dimensions later on after
we have gained more experience in the use of modified attitudinals.
I have used a set of experimental cmavo in the above but, if the
idea is accepted, we must, of course, assign permanent cmavo from
the set of unassigned ones.
I'm sending this to you for initial comments on the viability of
the basic idea as you know the present system better than anyone
else. If you think it worthwhile I can mail it to the list or
you can present it at the LogFest.
Veijo
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Veijo Vilva vilva@viikki21.helsinki.fi