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Re: Beginners' lujvo
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- Subject: Re: Beginners' lujvo
- From: "Jorge J. Llambías" <jorge@INTERMEDIA.COM.AR>
- Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 20:11:07 -0300
- Reply-to: "Jorge J. Llambías" <jorge@INTERMEDIA.COM.AR>
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>> >vanjikru
>> "brandy" x1 is a quantity of brandy distilled from wine/fermented
>> fruits/grapes x2.
>>
>> >kujmikce
>> "nurse" x1 nurses x2 for ailment x3 with treatment/cure x4
>
>Yes, these are what I had in mind, though I must admit I found the
>explanation of the place structure confusing!
Let me try again.
The idea is first to expand the lujvo into its components:
vanjikru -> jikru be lo vanju
kujmikce -> kurji gi'e mikce
Then the place structure of the lujvo is formed simply by all the
places of the components that are left unfilled:
ko'a jikru lo vanju be ko'e -> ko'a vanjikru ko'e
ko'a kurji ko'e gi'e mikce ko'e ko'i ko'o -> ko'a kujmikce ko'e ko'i ko'o
In the second case, some of the places of the components
overlap: the x2 of kurji (the person taken care of) is the same
as the x2 of mikce (the patient). But there is no rule to force
this interpretation. {kujmikce} might also mean, for example,
{mikce be lo kurji}: a doctor for caregivers. I just picked the
one that seemed to me to be most likely. In other cases the
choice might be less obvious.
>> >sakcuvbi'o
>Actually, I was thinking of "vacuum cleaner". Oh well!
One possibility would be {sakmi'i}: {minji be le nu sakci}.
The place structure would be: {ko'a minji le nu ko'a sakci ko'e ko'i}
"x1 is a machine for sucking x2 from x3".
>le nu do pu sidju ve ckire
>
>co'o mi'e robin.
i mi gleki le nu mi pu sidju
co'o mi'e xorxes