Re: years as dates

[Robin Turner <robin@bilkent.edu.tr>]

la xorxes. cusku di'e

>
> la robin cusku di´e
>
> >coi rodoi
>
> i di´u na gendra i pe´i do skudji lu coi rodo li´u

{zo'o} it's a new sentence type, the double vocative.

> >lenu la kolumbus. facki le cnino gugde se detri li pavosore
>
> [cu missing]
>

Actually the original example in the lesson has a {kei} after {gugde}, which
I assume does the same trick. It was

lenu la kolumbus. facki lo cnino gugde kei se detri ma


>
> >would mean that he discovered America on the 1492nd day, rather
> >than in the year 1492.  Would something like {la pavosorenanc.}
> >clear this up?
>
> I think that would be understood. Maybe {facki} will
> end up with that meaning too, since it is almost
> always used for finding some object, place or person
> rather than for finding out that some fact is true
> about something.

{.ia} but I may just be indulging in sumti-raising again!

>
> >{ta'o} I left {le cnino gugde} deliberately vague to avoid
> >confusion/argument about what he really did discover!
>
> {le cnino munje} would work too.
>

That was my first choice, but I thought it might be a bit malglico.
Coloumbus doscovered what was (to him at least) a new country, but "The New
World" for the Americas seems a bit culture-specific.

>
> >Another question - I've always used the question word {ma} with
> >{detri} and {tcika}, since although the normal x1 is a number
> >(implying {xo} as the question), the place seems also capable of
> >taking cmene,
>
> But {ma} asks for any sumti, and can be used to ask for
> sumti with {li} as well. You don´t need that justification
> for using {ma}. To use {xo} you´d have to say {li xo}
> instead of plain {ma}.
>

This confirms what I had thought.  I had considered introducing {xo} in this
lesson but dropped the idea, as {xo} doesn't seem to be that useful outside
complicated mekso stuff.

>
> >as in
> >
> >la pacac. cu tcika ti
> >
> >or
> >
> >la padjed. cu detri ti
>
> {la padjed} was Monday, Sunday, or the first of the month?

The convention is Sunday, which I personally find awkward, as I always think
of Monday as the first day of the week.

co'o mi'e robin.