[lojban] Way to go?

[Joirin Couwe <bugathlon@yahoo.com>]

From: Joirin Couwe <bugathlon@yahoo.com>

I think my mail is probably FAQ, but haven't seen
that. I have mixed two different topics, sorry for
that. The first is request for guidance how to learn
and the second one is need for information about
status of electronic resources (and hopefully polite
complaints).

So could people recommend some (tested:) good ways to
learn lojban?

1) What is the material I should dig?

I did first bump into
http://www.animal.helsinki.fi/lojftp/draft-textbook/lesson02
.
I did print it and I have started to study.

Then I found
ftp://xiron.pc.helsinki.fi/pub/lojban/draft-textbook/lesson02
.
I made comparison and found no differences in content,
other was just wrapped into HTML and <XMP>, probably
just saved in Microsoft Explorer.

In the end I browsed
http://www.animal.helsinki.fi/lojban/refgr_f/refgr.html
what seems to be a little bit similar to
draft-textbook lessons, but not quite the same.

What should I read? Or should I by the book at once,
and concentrate on it?

2) What is the list I should use?

There is still few confusing details, like this
mailing list I'm using now compared what
http://www.animal.helsinki.fi/lojftp/roadmap.html
recommends: "To subscribe, send a message
containing 'subscribe lojban Firstname Lastname' to
<listserv@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu>. " So what is this
lojban@onelist.com for?

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Actually, now I was surfing addresses for this mail I
did notice something interesting at
ftp://xiron.pc.helsinki.fi/pub/lojban/lojban-list/
directory. The FAQ!

Being dated 'Dec 7, 1995' I assume it contains quite a
few errors, just because time has passed.

3) Is there any plans to "update everything on the
net" :)?

How about updating, possibly rewriting, www.lojban.org
pages and the FAQ? I would like to see it being
written for the people starting up the language -
veterans know where to surf anyway :).

In any case, I would like to see clear separation of
outdated material and new, correct material. That
could be basic page with same structure as before -
page with links like:

* Reasonable new and usable stuff
* Archives
  * Reasonable usable little bit older stuff
  * Archived memories
    * email lists
    * word lists
    * web pages
    * other archives

Now it's very hard to know what's valid now and what I
should look when I want to know where have we came?

4) Are LogFests still held?

Ps. I have already many questions I have wondered, but
I'm saving those until I know I'm not questionating
things which are decades old :).


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