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Re: [lojban] RE:literalism



At 12:42 PM 10/20/2000 -0400, pycyn wrote:
Actually, "chicken of the sea" is pretty good (aside from its current
commercial use) and surely better for a wide array of purposes  than {finpe}
followed by some version of the scientific name of tuna.  What about it is
painting a picture -- as opposed to pointing to features, say -- is not clear
(which is context, which is within the context, for example?).  Now would be
a good time to be a literalist, perhaps.

Painting a picture invokes artistic connotations rather than denotations. In Lojban terms, it is pulling place structure places out of thin air. Sea-chicken might almost work for "tuna" because the picture-painting stayed within the animal kingdom and the normal place structures of the animal brivla - it merely invokes a classification system for animals that isn't quite scientific %^)

A sky-scraper on the other hand does not in fact guska anything, and people seem to feel that in particular the final term of the tanru used in lujvo making out to apply literally. A metaphor at least as good would be "penis-building" - at least we know it's a building of some kind.

lojbab
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