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Re: [lojban] nilbroda

At 01:05 AM 02/22/2001 -0800, Nick Nicholas wrote:

>>and it's good for
>>predictability to leave the open-ended places till last. (For the same
>>reason, I wanted the comparandum of traji to be x2, not x4.) But of course
>>the book takes priority,
>You wrote that particular section of the book, so I figured you would know
>why you wrote the convention oppositely from what you actually did.

It's an exaggeration to say that I wrote it,


Not at all.


 but like I said, we have two
conflicting principles: predictability, and place ordering following
relative salience. I'd rather the first prevail, but realistically
acknowledge it (usually) won't. What I'd decided and/or articulated in '93,
I couldn't tell you, and I doubt it's important enough to pore through the
archives.


Your lujvo paper is easy to find.  Section 5.0:

5.0. NU-based lujvo.
Lujvo based on a {nu} rafsi and a gismu need to have regular place structures,
because there are so many lujvo which can be made, and so little information
in the veljvo to help decide the place structure on any other basis. Such
a regular place structure has already been suggested in _ju'i lobypli_
for {nu}, reflecting the veljvo place structure, and can easily be generalised 
for all rafsi of grammeme NU:
{nunbroda}: n1 b1 b2 b3 b4 b5
{dumbroda}: d1 b1 b2 b3 b4 b5 d2
{jezbroda}: j1 b1 b2 b3 b4 b5 j2
{kambroda}: k1 b1 b2 b3 b4 b5
{lizbroda}: l1 b1 b2 b3 b4 b5 l2
{mufbroda}: m1 b1 b2 b3 b4 b5
{nilbroda}: n1 b1 b2 b3 b4 b5 n2
{puvbroda}: p1 b1 b2 b3 b4 b5 p2
{sizbroda}: s1 b1 b2 b3 b4 b5 s2
{suvbroda}: s1 b1 b2 b3 b4 b5 s2
{zazbroda}: z1 b1 b2 b3 b4 b5
{zumbroda}: z1 b1 b2 b3 b4 b5 z2
Obviously you didn't look at the place structures you had concocted when you wrote this. 

But it's OK, a foolish consistency and all that ...

lojbab
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