Re: [lojban] Random lojban questions/annoyances.

[Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>]

On Sun, Mar 18, 2001 at 01:26:02AM +0000, michael helsem wrote:
> >From: Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
>       li'o
> >2.  Is there a word for 'with', as opposed to 'without' (claxu)?
> 
> kansa

Is that actually isomorphic to na claxu?  kansa appears to be talking
about physical accompaniment to/during an actual event/state, whereas
claxu is much more general.  I would be quite comfortable translating
"That picture contains no blue" with "le pixra cu claxu le blanu (or le
ka blanu)", but I would not feel comfortable translating "That picture
contains blue." with "le pixra cu kansa le blanu", because I wouldn't
have anything to putin the x3 place of kansa.

>        li'o
> >The idea that 'we can only know what is in fact true.' seems patently
> >ridiculous.
> 
> note the x4 place of DJUNO

I don't see how that mitigates the problem.  Does "mi djuno fo le na
drani" translate as "I thought I knew, but I was wrong" (ignoring tense
issues)?  Does it make any sense, even?

-Robin

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