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Re: [lojban] Random lojban questions/annoyances.



At 02:03 PM 03/19/2001 -0500, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> >If y'all are going to insist that djuno makes a distinction between "to be
> >aware of the truth or factuality of" and "be convinced or certain of",
> >you're going to need to rewrite the definiton, because that is _not_
> >what the current definition says.  The current definition being in
> >English, the meanings of the english words must be used.
>
> The current definition is NOT a single word, and the whole must be used to
> get the meaning.  There MUST be an epistemology, which COULD be
> belief.  But I can "know" something by one epistemology and "know" the
> exact opposite by a different epistemology, in Lojban.

That seems to be directly contradicting what John has been saying.  I'm
fine with your interpretation, as it allows 'mi pu djuno' for something
I used to know but have been corrected on.

I don't know how what I say contradicts John. With some specific x4 values, x2 can be true whether or not I know it to be false by some other x4 value. It is even plausible that some thing may be known to x under epistemology w and not known to y under the same epistemology. Such an epistemology would not effectively describe objective reality since I have postulated subjectivity in the definition of that epistemology. jetnu, which has no observer place, does not support subjective truth, whereas djuno could.

lojbab
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