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Re: [lojban] krici (was: Knowledge (was: Random lojban questions/annoyances



At 02:33 PM 03/20/2001 -0500, Invent Yourself wrote:
Using the common English definition of "evidence" (sense data or
information), there is never any belief without evidence.

Using the technical epistemological definition of "evidence"
(propositions), which includes subliminal "obvious facts", there is never
any belief without evidence.

That is an odd definition of evidence to me; "obvious facts" are NOT evidence. By my understanding, the supernatural BY DEFINITION is that which does not manifest "natural" evidence of its existence. Belief in God or in angels seems to require belief.

Furthermore, abstract principles do not manifest sensorially. That "all men are created equal" could be treated as an assumption if it were negotiable, but for someone who considers it a basic truth of the universe, it is a belief, and I don't see what "evidence" applies to this belief.

I strongly associate my definition of belief with the word "faith", and as commonly used means that you hold your beliefs even in the face of apparent evidence that contradicts that belief.

lojbab
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