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Re: [lojban] Random lojban questions/annoyances.
At 03:46 PM 03/21/2001 +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote:
la lojbab cusku di'e
>Simplest case that comes to mind: experimental measurements of the speed of
>light or other fundamental constants. ko'a does the experiment and gets
>value c1.
(An experimental value with no errors?)
What does ko'a know "experimentally"?
You want to claim:
"ko'a djuno <that the speed of light is c1> fo <experiment>"
"naku <that the speed of light is c1> jetnu fe <experiment>"
Are those your two claims?
>ko'e repeats the experiment and gets value c2. The actual value
>of c may be slightly different from either of these values, of course. In
>this sense, the knowledge of the values c1 and c2 are both dependent on the
>observers, yet neither of them is true in the absence of an observer place.
You want to claim that each observer knows that their value is
right and at the same time you claim that it is not true that either
of the values is right?
Not quite. Take the word "right" out of there. In a philosophy that
denies objective reality, there is no "right". Each observer knows a
certain value measures the speed of light based on an experiment. By
moving to an observer-independent frame, we can say that at least one of
the two values is not the speed of light as measured by the experiment once
observer dependencies are removed.
>Probably the same would be true of much transient subjective sensory
>information.
I don't see how it could be true.
It would be true to ko'a by ko'a's senses. But ko'a's senses are not
generally considered to be a valid epistemology for observer independent
truth (jetnu)
lojbab
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