Re: [PHIL] Aussies [Re: djuno: the key issue (was: Re: Fwd: Re: [lojban] Random lojban questions/...]

[Value Yourself <xod@sixgirls.org>]

On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Jorge Llambias wrote:

>
> la xod cusku di'e
>
> > > I don't think anyone who knows what the capital of Australia is
> > > would say that "Robin knew that Sydney is the capital of Australia".
> >
> >This only means one thing. That "djuno" is not completely substitutable
> >with "know".
>
> I agree that "djuno" is not completely substituable with "know",
> the negation examples show that.
>
> But the sentence you quoted does not show that. {mi pu djuno
> le du'u la sidnis trutca le sralygu'e} is just as weird as
> "I knew that Sydney is the capital of Australia", so in this
> case they are substituable.


How do you justify that it's just as weird? Remember, x4 is unspecified.



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