Re: [lojban] Re: toldjuno

[Pierre Abbat <phma@oltronics.net>]

On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, pycyn@aol.com wrote:
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>In a message dated 4/15/2001 7:10:07 AM Central Daylight Time, 
>a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com writes:
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>> Why "toldjuno" rather than "naldjuno", and what would "naldjuno" mean?
>> 
>Literally (as always, except when inconvenient) {naldjuno} is just {na djuno} 
>which could mean that he did not believe it at all (mostly what we want) OR 
>that he had no evidence for it OR that he did not appreciate the force of the 
>evidence he had OR that it wasn't true (OR some of those other things we 
>don't work into our definition).  {toldjuno} extracts a particular core from 
>this, as does "ignore/-ant," leaving the rest intact -- the polar opposite in 
>the same (dare I say "epistemology"?).

No, that would be {nardjuno}. {naldjuno} is the lujvo for {na'e djuno} which
just negates {djuno} - the relation between the person and the truth is not
knowledge. It could be belief or surmisal, but it is not knowledge. {toldjuno}
states that the relation between the person and the truth is the opposite of
knowledge - it has never entered his head.

phma