Re: [lojban] Request for grammar clarifications

["Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" <lojbab@lojban.org>]

At 02:15 AM 05/28/2001 +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote:
> la lojbab cusku di'e
> >It refers to a date associated with the letter.  What exactly the date has
> >to do with the letter is ellipsized, associated with another place of detri
> >and/or a sumti-raising therefrom.
>
> It seems we are in agreement then. {ti xatra de'i ko'a} means
> approximately {ko'a detri le nu ti xatra}: "ko'a is te date of the
> letter event", the date around which the letter relationship holds.
> This is probably around the date the letter is written, and probably
> agrees with the date written on the letter, but {de'i} does not
> strictly refer to the date written there. If you by mistake for
> example date your letter 2000 instead of 2001, that does not
> make {ti xatra de'i li 2000} true, it is still {ti xatra de'i
> li 2001} with the wrong numbers written on it. In other words,
> de'i does not refer to the written numbers but to an actual
> date related to an event.

The written numbers, even if incorrect, are still a date related to the letter.

> >A question is whether one really needs a predicate that
> >totally within itself with no other sumti means "is a Ford".
>
> Right. And would the same conversion apply to "is a Picasso"?
> And then, would it extend to "is a Beethoven" about a symphony?
> Or "is a Shakespeare" about a play? Or "is a Eurhythmics" about
> a song?

Sounds English-colloquial to me.  srana seems adequate.  Though probably 
co'e is even better.

lojbab
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