Re: [lojban] Re: possible worlds

[Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>]

On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 11:37:32PM -0400, Rob Speer wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 10:56:14PM -0400, pycyn@aol.com wrote:
> > In a message dated 6/19/2001 8:10:08 PM Central Daylight Time, 
> > thinkit8@lycos.com writes:
> > 
> > 
> > > how about this?  "if i were rich i'd have a house" goes to
> > > "fau le nu mi ricfu kei mi ponse lo zdani".  i don't like using the 
> > > UI cmavo to do this either, but i think there are substitutes.
> > > 
> > 
> > Nice, but what does it have to do with possible worlds? (the answer "nothing" 
> > is to its advantage)  Is it clearly superior to {ganai mi ricfu gi mi ponse 
> > lo zdani}.  The latter is, I suppose uninterestingly true, the former appears 
> > to be false or of uncertain -- and uncertainly obtainable -- truth value.  
> > So, as assertions, the advantage seems to lie with {ganai} form.  But if this 
> > is something else than an assertion, it does seem to move over into the area 
> > of UI: intentions, hopes, and the like.

[snip]

> I still don't find this as elegant as Loglan's {foi} and {fio}; those would be
> similar to Lojban modals or tenses, which would have a more useful role in the
> grammar of the sentence than a UI cmavo. However, at least this doesn't seem to
> leave a gaping conceptual hole in the language, and I suppose it's the best we
> can realistically achieve within the baseline.

What's wrong with va'o?

-Robin

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