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RE: [lojban] registry of experimental cmavo



At 11:24 PM 07/17/2001 +0100, And Rosta wrote:
> There is no formal method of proposing additions, innovations, or
> augmentations to the language, and Lojban Central is unalterably opposed to
> even setting up a system for doing so during the baseline period, because
> the mere existence of such a system renders one major purpose of the
> baseline meaningless (the two major purposes being long term stability in
> order to develop a large speaker population and, the one that is
> threatened, the transfer of the language change process from one of formal
> control and direction to one of natural language change by evolution among
> speakers of the language).
>
> Proposals for changes are by their nature prescriptions.  We want no
> prescriptions other than the official language, until the baseline period
> ends.  Ideally, at that point, there will be no need for English language
> discussion of changes.

I'm not sure (a) whether you're saying that Lojban Central wants no proposals
for change and does not want to set up a system for registering changes,

Yes.

or (b) whether Lojban Central (and by implication LLG in all likelihood) wants
to prevent the wider Lojban community from collectively maintaining an
unofficial register of proposals for change

Yes.

 (which I construe as proposals
for a different loglan, not as proposals to oblige others to alter their
linguistic behaviour).

If one wants proposals for a different loglan, I have no problems with this provided that they are clearly labelled as such. You will note that I never said a word about your own logical conlang efforts. If you want ideas for developing a son-of-Lojban (of a somewhat different name to avoid confusion), that is a different sort of thing (still not something I relish, but something I can officially ignore).

 If (a) then I know, but it doesn't change my interest
in loglan design. If (b), then you need to be more explicit about what
prohibitions someone friendly to LLG must obey.

There is nothing that you must "obey"; the fact that you have been invited to be a voting member means that you have been officially recognized as friendly to LLG, and I am neither a dictator or even a dictator-wannabe. Thus I will not tell you what to do, but rather indicate my concerns and their strength and let your friendly-to-LLG conscience be your guide. %^)

Others in the community are of course welcome to chime in with their opinions as well. They don't have my problem of trying to lead a project while not repeating the mistakes of Schleyer, Zamenhof, or Brown.

lojbab
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