At 03:37 PM 07/27/2001 +0100, And Rosta wrote:
The reason why Lojban List remains a single list (not counting Jbosnu), rather than lojban list + lojban-tech, is that Lojbab is opposed to splitting the list. His preferences appear to be (1) technical discussion doesn't happen, (2) it happens on Lojban list, (3) it happens on Lojban-tech list. (1) is unreasonable, so it is down to Lojbab that we have (2) rather than (3).
Lojbab is not opposed to technical discussion. I wish it were minimized, because it detracts from people actually using the language (since my last posting on this topic, Cowan has expressed his opinion that the appropriate way to fill in the gaps of the refgrammar is a chrestomathy of approved usages; we will no doubt be discussing this at LogFest). There is at times a lot of energy thrown into technical discussion that goes nowhere, whereas Jorge has certainly found that he has more effect on language usage by using the language to the point that people follow his usage patterns, than he will ever have in technical discussion.
I oppose a tech list primarily because I do not want the loss of critical mass on the main list, especially if it means that all of the experienced people working the technical list no longer pay attention to the regular list. I would welcome it if there was a foolproof way of getting a mailing list to sort itself into technical and beginner posts and other categories so that people could filter what they don't want easily, but that is not likely at least while we are using a commercial mail host. (If we had our own mailing list host, we could in theory use software at the host to standardize subject lines to include filterable codes.)
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