RE: [lojban] li'i (was: Another stab at a Record on ce'u

[Invent Yourself <xod@sixgirls.org>]

On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, And Rosta wrote:

> > > I don't deny that there must be an experiencer. I just
> > > strongly question whether the experiencer must be involved in the
> > > experience bridi.
> >
> > How can I experience a bridi if I am not in one of its places?
>
> I don't know how to answer that except by the obvious strategy of
> offering you a bridi with all places filled by something other than
> the experiencer, and asking if the situation described (e.g. pc's
> sun setting over the lake, or my Northern Ireland conflict) is
> experienceable, and hoping that you will say Yes.


In claiming {li'i klama} has a meaning which is not one of {li'i klama FA
ce'u}, you're claiming that "I experienced going (klama), but I wasn't the
goer, nor the origin, nor the destination, the vehicle, or the route".
What exactly are you experiencing then?




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