Re: [lojban] A serious but ungeneralized new attempt on Q-kau

["Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" <lojbab@lojban.org>]

At 03:01 PM 9/4/01 +0100, And Rosta wrote:
>     {ro nu makau I have for dinner cu some-lujvo-of-{tcini}
>      lo nu makau is in the fridge}
>
> Is that right? And you want it to mean "Each nu ... dinner has among its
> occurrence-conditions some nu ... fridge".

lenu makau cu nenri le lenkytanxe cu rinka lenu mi citka makau fau le 
raljysanmi

> And how do we get rid of the makau? Thus? --
>
>    For every x, for every y that is a ka'e nu I have x for dinner: there 
> is some
>    z such that y's occurrence conditions include z's being in the fridge.
>
> I can't decide whether that's too broad when compared to the English.

Not broad enough.  What about the case where there is no food in the 
fridge.  x could be the merchandise of the local fast food joint, but z is 
noda poi selcitka mi

...  Hmm. Jorge may have said this already; I'm not sure.  If so, we may be 
agreeing.

lojbab
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