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RE: [lojban] black boxes



> "black box" in English has at least three meanings:
> 1. black box (xekri tanxe)
> 2. a recorder in an airplane (narju tanxe, some sort of vreji)

some jvajvo of:

na kakne se daspo vreji

> 3. a device whose internals are unknown.

some jvajvo of:

se mipri nenri cabra

> 
> How should we translate the idioms?
> 
> phma