RE: [lojban] Re: ro prenu na ku daplu

["Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" <lojbab@lojban.org>]

At 04:11 PM 9/25/01 +0100, And Rosta wrote:
> >>> "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" <lojbab@lojban.org> 09/24/01 01:37am
> #At 12:34 AM 9/24/01 +0100, And Rosta wrote:
> #>Nick:
> #> > One thing: you're insisting on {zei} because you want to sidestep the
> #> > potential ambiguity of tanru, or because you don't want to look up 
> the Evil
> #> > that is rafsi?
> #>
> #>I don't want to use tanru. I don't want to look up short rafsi. And I
> #>avoid 5-letter rafsi so as to make it easier for others to look up the
> #>constituent parts. I also approve of lujvo glue as a matter of principle.
> #
> #This sounds a bit strange, coming from someone who is arguing that we don't
> #have enough allowance for Zipfean shortening.
>
> The fact that I dislike the rafsi system, which happens to be Lojban's
> sole zipfean mechanism, is not incompatible with my thinking there
> should be other better zipfean mechanisms.
>
> At this stage I think that type 4 fuhivla and string-abbreviating 
> experimental
> cmavo are our best hope, but if I could rewrite history I would have made
> all gismu CCV and used any C as lujvo glue (CCV-C-CCV).

You may want to check out Rex May's loglang Ceqli,
http://www.geocities.com/ceqli/
since he came to a similar conclusion, though I don't know where he went 
with it (he discusses it on alt.lang.artificial).  Of course that sort of 
lujvo is anti-Zipfean, since it is longer than the metaphor that it 
supposedly compresses.

lojbab
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