jimc: #Drifting off topic again: in heptal or duodecimal or decimal or hex or #whatever, how do you write the radix? 10, of course. The solution I used #in the proprietary radix extension was to have the user specify radix-1, #that is, 6 -> heptal, f -> hex, 9 -> decimal, etc. ... another of those gems of ingenuity that so delightfully and so frequently ornament this list. --And.