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RE: [lojban] The Pleasures of goi (was: zipf computations & experimental cmavo



At 01:39 AM 9/30/01 +0100, And Rosta wrote:
The possibility of goi-less ko'a is involved in only one of three key
arguments for asymmetric goi. The other arguments are (i) that no'u
serves the function of woldemarian symmetric goi, and (ii) that ko'a
may already have a referent, which you want to assign to a cmene, and
this must be distinguishable from assigning the referent of a cmene
to a recycled ko'a.

I think i) is dealt with by recognizing that using goi is a kind of metalinguistic speech act. One is not merely casually noting what ko'a means; one is actively defining it (implicit ca'e?) and more or less insisting it be used with that definition; ii) is not something we designed ko'a to be used for, if I understand what you mean by it. If I wanted to assign a cmene, I would not use goi, but rather ko'a noi se cmene [name] (or ne me'e [name])

lojbab
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