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Re: [lojban] Practical cooperation 1: "is intended to be"



Jorge Llambias wrote:

la djan cusku di'e


** la Djan cutse [LW for "the following text", no Loglan equivalent]


The problem: What's a good tanru/metaphor for the predicate "x1 is intended (or supposed) to be x2 by the intention of x3"?


How about {te platu}?


** Lojban te = Loglan fu (and Lojban se = Loglan nu, later on).

** Lojban "platu" is roughly equivalent to Loglan "danci", but
the place structures are different:

** platu:  x1 is the planner, x2 is the plan, x3 is what is described by
the plan.

** danci: x1 is the plan, x2 is what is described by the plan, x3 is the
planner.

** So platu = nufunu fu danci, and danci = te setese platu


mu'o mi'e xorxes


** hue Xorxes.

My substantive comments:

I think that platu/danci sort of misses the point.  If Humpty Dumpty
intends "glory" to mean "a nice knockdown argument", that does not
mean that "glory" is a *plan* for a nice knockdown argument.
Similarly, if I intend an extended middle finger to be an insult,
that does not make it a plan.

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