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Re: [lojban] Logical translation request




la pycyn cusku di'e

In a message dated 12/18/2001 7:01:51 PM Central Standard Time,
jjllambias@hotmail.com writes:


> Can you give an example of an agglomeration of tense words that
> could not possibly mean anything? I doubt you could find one,
> and the worse part is that even if you do, it probably has an
> equivalent form that is grammatical anyway

This is going to depend upon just what the time system is; that is, what is
the hidden presuppositions in the incredible journey through time.  this is
(wisely) not specified but that means all the possibilities are open.  So,
for example, tense time could be SAE, which makes at least past futures
potentially incommensurate with any other tenses, i.e., "puba P" does not
entail "ga pu P giga ca P gi ba P" (this is one way SAE gets irrealis
subjunctives, after all). So there can be tense strings that are too long to deal with (around seven shifts, say) in real time and ones that have no other
description than the one given in the old Loglan strings.

I don't understand how that relates to my question. Indefinitely
long tense strings are allowed in the current system. I was
asking for an example of an "agglomeration" that was excluded
because it could not possibly mean anything.

mu'o mi'e xorxes




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