Re: [lojban] Re: [jboske] Quantifiers, Existential Import, and all that stuff

["Jorge Llambias" <jjllambias@hotmail.com>]

la xod cusku di'e

> I think it would be nice if there was a clear exposition of these two
> dialects for the benefit of those, like me, who lack the stamina to
> follow the discussion directly.

The only differences (pc will correct me if there are any more)
are that for me {ro broda} is equivalent to {ro da poi broda}
and {no broda} is equivalent to {no da poi broda}, i.e. they
don't have existential import, whereas for pc these are not
equivalent.

For pc {ro broda} is equivalent to {ro lo su'o broda}, i.e. it
has existential import, and similarly {no broda} is equivalent
to {no lo su'o broda}.

Other than that, I think we agree on everything.

> Otherwise, given that neither of you are creating a corpus of Lojban text,

What do you mean? I'm about to finish the first draft of the
Alice translation. Slowly, but it is progressing.

> your exploration will be effectively lost. Soon, if not already,
> YahooGroups will be up to 20 000 messages; so many that there's a good
> chance for the future writer to miss your entire exchange.

Is there no way to safeguard those somehow? Not that they
contain much wisdom, but I remember I had a lot of fun reading
the old archives when I first started with Lojban. Of course
they were a lot less back then.

mu'o mi'e xorxes




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