[lojban] Re: Language evolution

[Invent Yourself <xod@thestonecutters.net>]

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Llu'is Batlle i Rossell wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 01:49:44PM -0400, Invent Yourself wrote:
> > On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 08:08:58PM -0400, Invent Yourself wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 05:01:35PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> > > > > > A language that conveyed all information unambiguously, say Ferrer
> > > > > > i Cancho and Sol?, would have a separate word for every thing,
> > > > > > concept or action it referred to. Such a language would be
> > > > > > formidably complicated for the speaker: the green of grass, for
> > > > > > example, would be represented by a totally different word to the
> > > > > > green of sea, an emerald or an oak leaf.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry.  If I had read this paragraph before I sent it here, I
> > > > > wouldn't have bothered.
> > > >
> > > > ma naldrani
> > >
> > > le sidbo be le nu le cimni bangu cu sarcu le ka satci
> >
> >
> > fancu fo tu'a lo kampabdu'i .enai lo kamsarcu .i va'i satci ma
>
> .e'o ko cusku la'e di'u bau la .gliban. .i


"The relationship (being discussed) is one of proportionality, not of
necessity. In other words; _how_ precise?"



> > > > .i le ni sinxa cu tolpabdu'i le jei satci
> > >
> > > "tolpabdu'i" ?= inversely proportional?
> > >
> > > If so, I don't think that means what you want it to mean, because
> > > what you just said means "As the number of symbols increases, the
> > > amount of truth decreases".
> >
> >
> > le jei ko'a jetnu cu drata le jei ko'a satci .i zo ni mapti zo sinxa ni'i
> > le du'u su'oreda sinxa .i ku'i zo jei mapti zo satci ni'i le du'u ckilu
> > do'e li 0 do'e li 1
>
> ki'a lu do'e li'u


"something about", an unspecified relationship.



> > je'u le ni sinxa cu pabdu'i le jei lo sinxa cu satci
> >
> re le zo cu nenri di'u ni'i ma
>
> .i .u'a mi djica co cilre fo le bridi pe do


This page
http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter11.html should
explain why I can use multiple "cu" in one sentence.

Thanks for your efforts.


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