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[lojban] Re: Lojban Scholasticism
Bob LeChevalier wrote:
I think that is part of the problem. People want to jump from Aesop's
fables, which are a paragraph long, without a standard text so that
people feel more free to take liberties with the wording, and then
jump to novels of great length, often loaded with the sorts of odd
uses of language that would tend to attract Lojbanists (no insult
intended to the Alice translators).
Athelstan was wise in tackling a Saki short story 16 years ago. There
are plenty of these, they are only a few pages long so they can be
translated much more quickly than a novel, and they are short enough
that a lot of relatively novice Lojbanists would be inclined to try to
read the text (I don't expect that there will be much market for the
Lojban translations of "War and Peace" or "Les Miserables" for a good
while).
lojbab
I understand where you are getting to with this and I agree in
principle. However. Many years ago, frustrated with trying to learn
french, I decided to read 20,000 leagues under the sea. I'd picked it up
at a second hand shop for a dollar. When I started I had no idea, but by
the time I'd read it I could read passable french. The advantage of
reading a long text using a single voice (writer) in their own style is
like any repetative excercise, after a while it starts to become easier
and more fluid. Though the work of an individual translator or writer
may be idiomatic in form (ie englishy or obtuse when compared to a
refference text) it acts as a great facilitator for learning, as the
subject and narrative elements become increasingly well known and odd
uses and referents can be intuited. This is not unlike how we learn
natural languages, and I believe the benefit of reading of long texts
(over example texts and drills) is often underestimated.
I've taken komfo,amonan(s) suggestion to heart and have downloaded la
nicte cadzu for a read
http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/hobbies/lojban/palm/la%20nicte%20cadzu/index.html
pav
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