[lojban] Re: I usually take out the garbage on Mondays

["Jorge Llambías" <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On 5/28/08, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> There are at least two ways of interpreting this:
> 1. Given that I take out the garbage, the probability of Monday is high.
> 2. Given that a day is Monday, the probability that I take out the garbage is
> high.

Also:
3. Given that someone takes out the garbage on a Monday, the probability
that that someone is me is high.
4. Given that I take out something on a Monday, the probability that it is the
garbage is high.
5. Given that I do something with the garbage on a Monday, the probability
that what I do with it is take it out is high.

These could be expressed in Lojban thus:

1'- lo lurdei cu fadni lo ka mi vimcu lo festi ca ce'u
2'- lo nu mi vimcu lo festi cu fadni lo ka mi zukte ce'u ca lo lurdei
3'- mi fadni lo ka ce'u vimcu lo festi ca lo lurdei
4'- lo festi cu fadni lo ka mi vimcu ce'u ca lo lurdei
5'- lo ka ce'u vimcu ce'u cu fadni lo ka mi ckini lo festi ce'u ca lo lurdei

> What do these mean?:
> .i mi vimcu lo festi na'o lo lurdei

I think this one would mean that I spend my Mondays taking out
the garbage.

> .i mi na'o vimcu lo festi ca lo lurdei

This one I think would say that my usual occupation is taking
out the garbage on Mondays.

> .i mi vimcu lo festi pe na'o ku ca lo lurdei

I would interpret {lo festi pe na'o ku} as {lo festi poi na'o co'e},
but I'm not sure what kind of garbage that would be.

> .i mi vimcu lo festi ca lo lurdei pe na'o

Similarly, {lo lurdei pe na'o} would seem to be {lo lurdei poi na'o co'e}.
Perhaps that's a normal Monday, which could make this close to 2.

> .i mi vimcu lo'e festi ca lo lurdei

I take out typical garbage on Mondays? I leave the atypical garbage
for other days, or for someone else to take out?

> .i mi vimcu lo festi ca lo'e lurdei

Probably close to 2.

There is also {ta'e} to consider, which supposedly differs from {na'o}.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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