[lojban] Re: lo nu mi senva

["Chris Capel" <pdf23ds@gmail.com>]

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:27 AM, james riley <jimr1603@gmail.com> wrote:
> coi rodo mi'e cmacis
> many of you are familiar with me from #lojban.

Not me, but I'm going to pick anyway.

> mi melbi senva ca lo purlamcte .i mi senva lo du'u mi co'a prami lo ninmu

At first I thought you meant "I started liking women", as if you were
normally gay or asexual. Maybe {le} would be better here and at the
end?

> tu'e .i lo ninmu goi ny cu melbi mi .i ny nelci mi .i ku'i mi terpa lo nu ny

The PEG grammar doesn't parse tu'e before the .i (unless it were at
the beginning of a text), but my incremental parser in Lojgloss
doesn't care.

> xrani mi lo ka cinmo .i lo nu terpa cu mukti lo nu mi mi fukpi gau mi .i

I'm not really a jbocre myself, but "ka" doesn't sound quite right
here. I'd say either {cinmo xrani} or maybe {tu'a cinmo}.

Instead of {gau mi}, maybe {fo tu'a mi} is more explicit?

> ku'i lo mi fukpi goi fy na traji fukpi mu'i lonu terpa lonu cortu .i ny
> nelci fy .i ku'i fy na du mi .i ny na nelci fy .i ny na nelci mi .i mi traji
> cortu .i lonu finti fy cu na bandu mi tu'u .i lo se senva na cinsne je'u
>
> .i ni'o fi la cizra pu preti mi fa lo du'u lo mo ninmu cu mi nelci

This does not parse (apart from the ni'o thing) either in Lojgloss or
jbofi'e. Since I'm not actually very good with Lojban, it's only a
wild guess that you meant "ku" and not "cu". Funny Adam didn't mention
that. Maybe he didn't think it worth mentioning, or didn't even notice
it. But since I sort of rely on text being well-formed so I can parse
it, it really tripped me up.

Also, I think you might have meant {fe la cizra}. And I'm not sure
what exactly you mean by {mo}--who? what sort?

> .i lo nu
> mi pensi cu krinu lo nu mi badri .i se ki'u bo no ninmu cu prami mi .i mi pu

"I think, and it makes me sad, and so no women love me."?

> nelci lo'i so'o ninmu goi ny .i ki'u ny na nelci mi .i tu'a ny xrani mi lo

I suppose the intended meaning is "something about them hurts me
emotionally", but it seems like there might be a way to make that more
explicit without too much trouble. (Of course, I wouldn't have any
idea what that way would be.)

> ka cinmo .i lu'a ny simsa fi lo ka melbi menli .i mi na jundi lo xadni .i
> tu'a mi tumla lo nu mi na nelci lo ninmu kei mu'i lo nu terpa lo nu cortu

I guess you mean {bapli} here, not {tumla} or {balpi} (which isn't a
word :-). I don't exactly understand what {lo ninmu} refers to here,
again. Any women at all? Any specific women? Is there an easy way to
be more clear about this?

Chris Capel
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