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[lojban] Re: Lojban Sentence Templates



True!

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 1:50 PM, komfo,amonan <komfoamonan@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> A couple of years ago I recommended to Robin a type of Lojban random
>> sentence generator that relies on templates. Taking an existing
>> utterance that parses, you transform each cmavo into the upper-case
>> symbol for its selma'o. You transform each gismu, lujvo and fu'ivla
>> into a tag meaning < gismu >, < lujvo > and < fu'ivla > respectively.
>> You have a template.
>>
>> To use the template to make a random sentence, replace each selma'o
>> tag with a cmavo from that selma'o, and each gismu with an actual
>> gismu. You get a sentence that parses. Let's say you have the template
>> LE MI GISMU CU GISMU KO'A2. Fill in the slots randomly with "le do
>> bakni cu sovna di'u"  and you get something nonsensical (Your cow is
>> an egg of the last utterance.), but it parses.
>>
>> The reason I bring this up now is that I would like to find out which
>> templates are the most common in the searchable corpus of Lojban
>> utterances, such as IRC logs. This would suggest very useful templates
>> for the home-game I'm building with dice, paper, and ceramics. I am
>> considering recording audio learning courses in which I would group
>> Lojban utterances (sensable ones) by template, to provide a variety of
>> examples of simple valid sentence structures, and relate selma'o
>> through substitution. Perhaps someone could intuit the most common and
>> useful templates, if not search it with textfile processing.
>
> Smallish point: Is there any reason not to merge < gismu >, < lujvo >, and <
> fu'ivla > into < brivla >? The distinctions between those three seem not
> relevant to the stated purpose. { le do .arxokuna cu barkla di'u } works
> just as well, right?
> mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan


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